News April 2002
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Monday 01/04/02 |
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The whirlpool guys are joining up at a great rate and we now have 13 WP members signed up for duty on the folding front. These guys are into broadband news not washing machines just in case your were wondering.
A big welcome goes out to Computer Alliance a long time sponsor of OCAU has joined the ranks here in the house of folding. They have already made themselves at home in the 50 Club but I don't think the shoes are coming off just yet with a head of steam that they have it wont take long before they are heading upstairs to the 100 Club.
Welcome to the new month and to kick this month off we have some OCAU sponsor advertising from the ECS Elitegroup, the folding community is doing its bit to help keep overclockers.com.au the #1 PC Hardware site in Australia.
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Tuesday 02/04/02 |
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One of our members Adam Ware (tuppaware) runs a web page dealing with ASP (Active Server Pages). Check it out here and his Folding article here. A big welcome to our newest forum sub team from Ausforums.com they have formed a team with the [AF] tag. The Ausforum folding thread is here and the OCAU thread is here. Thanks to Dean over at Ausforums for his help in setting this up.
Two new proteins Ab28-43V and Ab28-43T have surfaced over the past couple of days thanks Leachy. The project numbers are 500 and 501, they are worth 1 point each and with a return time limit of 7 days. Check out the Protein Page for information on all the proteins.
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Wednesday 03/04/02 |
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Statsman is having trouble getting data from Stanford so his stats cupboard is a bit bare just lately. Apparently Stanford haven't updated the Teams page since yesterday and the individual users txt file as well. Hang on you stats junkies all will be well soon, Den is still running ok though. Den must get his stats from the individual team pages, which is updating correctly.
Just a quick calculation on how far we are behind the [H] team and it works out to approx 100 XP's running 24/7. So if anybody knows where we can find that many boxen send me an email quick. |
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Thursday 04/04/02 |
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This news item is brought to you by chestRcopRpot and his roving mouse, thanks chestR. Been reading some stuff around the place and round this table from larry loen of Ars. (I added our rc5,seti and g@h numbers) Nice to see our folding team is a pretty major player in the big scheme of things. It is
scaled to 1 Ghz AMD. Once one figures out how much a 1 Ghz athlon
does in a day it is just a case off dividing total daily production
by that amount to get the Ghz of the team.
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Friday 05/04/02 |
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Its nice to be appreciated by other folding groups and to get recognition for our work on this page by the many people who have written guides to various things. Last week we had a visitor from the MacAddict4Life team drop by the forums and ask questions about our service guide for NT/2000/XP and now I read this on the Yahoo Groups recommending our guide to someone else, thanks Jima. OcAU has put together a good faq, see if something here works... Also this from the Rage3d Forums about our Protein Page.
hrm
but of course >>
http://www.overclockers.com.au/folding/proteinpage.htm
Now over to the overclockers.com forum and this.
See here:
Don't forget the Folding Exchange if you have any spare computer parts hanging around that other folks could use to put together a new folding box or if you are looking for that last piece to finish the new boxen.
The countdown is gathering momentum by the minute with a rush of new boxen up and folding already or planned for the near future. Here is a list of what has been added or is being added soon.
The countdown begins. 100 XP CPU's were needed to bridge the gap between us and the [H]orde. Sirwik provided the first and wing has his name down for the second. So that means only 98 to go, if you have a new XP folding boxen coming up let me know and we will add you to the list. There is a thread in the forums in which you can add your name. |
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Saturday 06/04/02 |
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An update to the XP countdown list.
Here is an interesting news article from CNN about proteins and how if they misfold they can cause serious diseases like Alzheimer's and Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease sounds familiar hey. One of the proteins they mention is the Amyloid beta proteins which we have been folding on our own machines just lately. Anyway have a read here.
Update No2: Well everything seems back to normal after that little bit of outage of 1.5 hrs. Update: I just tried to get to the Stanford home page and Stats page and that is no go as well. Looks like somebody has pulled the plug over there. It looks like all the servers are down, I noticed this after one of my WU's wouldn't upload and then I couldn't get new work either. This is what I found when I checked the Stanford Server Status page run by Team Helix. Hopefully they wont be down for long.
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Sunday 07/04/02 |
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The guys over at Whirlpool have decided to band together under one name Whirlpool instead of folding as individuals so be on the look out for another sub team charging up the charts.
Here is a EM3 update from Larry. Just wanted to let everyone know that I'm still working on the 1.x release of EM. I'm still running a lot of tests. Since I now have several different OS's to support, I want to make sure it works right on all of them... Little peek at the Default Skin, only one of 20 so far, but this is the Official EM skin... (And Yes, this is an actual screen shot of the working skin.) You will be able to change and modify nearly 70 different aspects of the window. Thanks for all the emails. I'm keeping all the suggestions and will try to put everything that is needed by all into the program. In the current version there are a
couple of glitches that you may or may not have noticed. The number
of atoms is one less than the actual number. This is an error in the
file Stanford creates called current.xyz... must be a counting
problem on their end... start an array at zero and use the upper
bound??? I'm just guessing... I fixed that in the version that
will be released next... 1.x The [H]orde are taking the piss again, just take a look at this thread over at the [H] forum just in case you cant get there here is the object of their jest. Now if we Aussies weren't so uptight we would find this extremely funny wouldn't we.
Here is a bit of a surprise that I found in my inbox, it comes from Fumio (alias Nightingale) of the Japanese folding team 2ch asking if it was ok to link to our page. To which I replied no worries mate, here is the link to their site. Looking through it the Protein Page gets a mention on the front page and our main page is mentioned on the Links page. Good luck deciphering the rest of it.
A big thanks goes out to the folks at the last Overkill LAN held on Saturday. B5lurker said that the Admins allowed access to port 8080 so the folders weren't cut off from their life source and folding operations could continue as normal in the non fragging times. A special thanks goes to Sticks and Klif-e for coming down to the Overkill LAN to help out with the configuring. Also B5lurker said another three souls have seen the light and are folding for Overclockers Australia.
To tidy things up a bit with the XP Countdown I have added its own page here. Its located in the Misc menu down on the left hand side. We are well on the way to getting 100 XP's plus as I call it "a supporting cast of thousands". Its not a bad effort considering its only been running since Sirwik started the thread on Friday. So if your planned boxen comes online post in to the thread and let us know so I can change the Yes to Yes.
Team Weekly stats are up and the Hits Page has also been updated. Also I added a few charts to the Daily Stats in the Stats Bar above, these are for the normal 7 day output plus a members chart and a OCAU v [H] points difference chart.
Hopefully things are back to normal today and we don't have anymore dramas like yesterday. Apparently Stanford's ISP was having a few problems. Stanford's ISP has been having some problems. We've
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Monday 08/04/02 |
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Well the XP Countdown is going great, with a little help from a bit of front page news, thanks Darkness. We now have 34 more XP's than we had on Friday and 51 other CPU's of various types in the supporting cast. I haven't added up the total Mhz but all these new boxen adds up to a lot of pain for the [H] team, well done chaps and keep sending in the pledges. We can do it, or as the ad for the shoes says "Just Do It". |
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Tuesday 09/04/02 |
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Only another 58 XP processors to go and I'm sure we will get them before a week is up. The gap to the [H] teams output has just about been closed. Tomorrow should see us start to close the points gap and about time to. Keep sending in the XP's and any other CPU's as supporting cast because this wont end till we are No1 again. |
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Wednesday 10/04/02 |
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Larry has been busy again and has released version 1.0 of his EMIII Folding@Home 2 monitoring program, chock a block full of goodies. He also has a separate skins pack to download, just unzip them to your EM folder. I will mirror them here as well.
Don't want you guys to think I don't care.
With the XP Countdown I added up the total processing power of the XP's and it come to 67.85Ghz with only 16.8 Ghz of that still in the planning stage. Also add to that 53.3 Ghz from the supporting cast and that adds up to 121 Ghz added to the folding power of our team in just 6 days. No wonder the [H]erd are stampeding in fright. Also 54 more XP's to go.
Another reminder about the Where Do You Fold From poll in the forums for the new folks and also don't forget to stick your boxen in the Boxen Database.
We now have on the members list another computer vendor GameDude folding under the name of Team GameDude, according to the post in the forums they already have 15 CPU's crunching away, welcome aboard.
Over on the Yahoo groups Vijay responded to the question about the Googlers taking too long to return their WU's, because they weren't dedicated DCers like us. It also answers the question about the benchmarking done at the startup of the folding client and the answer is "not yet" or "perhaps not fully implemented or perfected yet". The short WUs is definitely a way to go. We've been
developing ways
Another interesting post in the Yahoo groups comes from Michael Shirts one of Vijays associates in reply to a discussion about the left over wuresults in the Work directory. It explains the problem the Folding@Home team has with dealing with this and why the problem is there in the first place. I snipped his concluding statement which explains a lot about what the Folding@Home team have to deal with when it comes to putting out a bug free client that tries to please all that use it. This last paragraph is my thoughts- I can't speak for
Vijay here. We
I was just checking the team member numbers for us and the [H]orde and noticed the that they were ramping up at a fair rate as well. So that got me thinking, they must be doing some recruiting somewhere and where would they be doing that, of course in the General Mayhem forum over in [H]ardland. So off I went to investigate and what do you think I found. Overclockers Australia are slowly but surely tightening the noose, and we might be slipping from first place soon.
Don't forget to visit the sites sponsor's by clicking on the ad that we have here in the House of Folding. We need you to visit them so that they continue to provide Overclockers Australia with on going support.
The [H] mob have noticed something going on over this side of the Pacific ocean. It used be the "Indians are coming" but not any more, hopefully they are too busy eating their Picnic bars and we can take back the Folding Grail before they all finish chewing. WAKE UP! The Aussie's are coming! The "downunder" boyz are not
sitting on their hands.
What a magnificent set of stats we had for yesterday. We out scored the [H] team by a huge 3 points, which is a great effort considering both teams output is way over 3,000 points for the day. That means we have increased our output to match the [H]orde's and not sat on our hands waiting for them to come down to meet ours. This has come about because of all the new members and new boxen that have joined over the past few days since our XP Countdown campaign began. To all the new members XP or not a very big welcome and all your contributions whether big or small are helping turn the tide and we shall now start to take chunks out of the [H] teams lead. This is going to be the exciting part if we can maintain the momentum and watch their lead shrink day by day, its going to take a while but it can be done. Once those planned XP's become a reality they should really help close the gap a bit faster. Once again well done to everyone No1 here we come. |
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Thursday 11/04/02 |
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EM III has been updated to version 1.1 Beta, this time to accommodate the non 100 frame proteins
I'm still testing the extra features, but I thought I should fix the
issue with the frame count. That's the only thing new in this
release. 3/4 of my boxen now have proteins with 200 frames... EM now
supports any number of frames... no longer matters.
These are the only links that are currently good.
The Stanford Teams stats page hasn't updated for a day or so but the teams pages are still being updated ok. So until Stanford gets it act together I guess Statsman isn't going to be updated.
The Members Page has finally been updated into a new format and updated with all members up till 14:00 WST today. |
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Friday 12/04/02 |
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I will be away for the next few days and everything should be back to normal on Wednesday next week. If Statsman gets back online and you hit a Folding Club let me know via email of forum PM. The Milestone Club should be ok and I will do a big update when I get back. Also keep sending in those XP's for the countdown. Keep folding like mad and I will see you soon.
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Wednesday 17/04/02 |
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I'm back, refreshed and ready for another frenzied folding session. Things have been going along nicely since I last checked the stats five days ago. We produced from Friday morning till this morning 14,685 points at an average of 2,937 per day which is really good going and a big improvement on what we were doing a week or so ago. [H] averaged 3,242 for the same period which means we still need a boost for over 300 points a day to see them eye to eye. Membership increased from 1352 to 1379 an increase of 27 but the [H] added 36 new dudes.
The XP Countdown is filling up quite well with only 30 more XP's to go.
Check out the mother of all updates with the Milestone Club |
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Thursday 18/04/02 |
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Since Statsman was down for a bit last week the weekly figures are a bit inflated, but we will turn a blind eye to that and still count any Folding Club achievements that are reached. There was a bit more activity in the XP Countdown today with only 25 more to go it wont take long. We seem to be matching the [H]orde in the last 24 hrs, no doubt in part to all the new members with XP folding power and that huge supporting cast as well. So lets keep this up and show those over inflated egotistical ingrates what we can do.
I will be updating the Top 20 and other weekly type stats (that missed out on being updated last weekend) this weekend.
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Friday 19/04/02 |
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Another 6 XP's today so that makes 19 XP's to go.
The Folding Club has been quite popular over the last few days so enjoy the free drinks, this round is on Statsman.
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Saturday 20/04/02 |
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The Top 20 has been updated but with two weeks worth of numbers since I wasn't around last week to update it.
They are a creative mob (pun intended) in the DC forum, some of Creative's mates decided to modify the Britney Spears song Hit me Baby One More Time to give it more of a folding theme, because we all know that Creative has a soft spot for Britney. So here it is, the original as well so you can compare the two
Original
A good set of figures from yesterday with a of gain 151 points on the [H] mob, which is good news indeed. I am not going to make any predictions about what today may bring so let your computers do the taking and we will see what tomorrow brings. |
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Sunday 21/04/02 |
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The Weatherman Larry Perry has set up his own website as a one stop shop for all the goodies he makes for us DC peeps, such as EM3 and Hideit. Its here at http://home.attbi.com/~wxdude1/emsite/ go pay him a visit.
It looks like Statsman has taken the scissors to his stats and snipped off quite a few updates from last week when Stanford didn't update their stats for a while. The only trouble with that is there isn't a full week of stats, so everybody's weekly numbers are down a bit. They should be back to normal by tomorrow afternoon, so from one extreme to the other. |
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Monday 22/04/02 |
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While having a look around the Stanford site I found this villin gif which shows the protein folding, so I thought I might share it with you. Simulations of the villin headpiece
The villin headpiece is a small, 36-residue alpha helical protein. It has been heavily studied experimentally and by simulation since is perhaps one of the smallest, fastest folding proteins. It has a hydrophobic core made of 3 phenylalanines, but also has two groups (a tryptophan and another phenylalanine) which are hydrophobic, but are solvent exposed (for functional reasons). Duan and Kollman simulated 1 microsecond of MD time, in a ground breaking simulation. However, since the folding time is on the order of 10 microseconds, it is not surprising that they did not see it fold. Our simulations contain hundred of microseconds of MD time, and we have seen 35 simulations which have folded. Below, we detail the trajectory of one of these simulations. There is also some movies to download of various sizes. 200x200 (1 MB) 300x300 (2 MB) 400x400 (3.4MB) 640x480 (4.8MB)
News from Stanford about new scientific code that will be included soon in the client that will speed up things considerably them and enable them to do more work in the same amount of time. It should change anything on our side with the exception perhaps of a new core. New scientific code for Folding@Home We've been working with new collaborators to develop and integrate new molecular dynamics code into Folding@Home. This should greatly speed up our calculations -- for some, perhaps by as much as 20x. We'll still benchmark WUs to score based on how much CPU time was spent, but we'll get a lot more done with that CPU time. Indeed, we'll be using what looks to be the fastest MD code on the planet. There will be some issues with this namely retooling of our analysis backend and some beta testing of the science part, but we're excited. We'll look to be beta testing this in the next week or two and then if all goes well, roll it out in 2-4 weeks. The users won't need to do anything, as this is all in the Scientific Core code. However, we'll give more details about the vagueries above when we're closer to rolling out. This speed increase will allow us to directly attack problems that even we couldn't do before!
I was doing a bit of investigating to find out how many points the new release of proteins were worth and this is what I found. I still have to find a couple of names for projects 121, 125 and 126. Also Stanford have released a set of proteins for Linux users only and are making sure everything is ok before general release. The Protein Page has been updated with these as well. We're testing some new projects, designed to study
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Tuesday 23/04/02 |
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Wednesday 24/04/02 |
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Here I go again, I have been playing around with the weekly numbers over the last 80 days. I plotted a graph with our weekly output Vs [H] output over that time to see where we were headed and it looks good, very good in deed if the trendline is anything to go by.
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Thursday 25/04/02 |
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Larry has got his EMIII up to version 1.4 now This is mostly a bug
fix release... but there are a few new features.
If you have already installed version 1.x Beta, you only need to extract the EMIII.exe file to your folder.
See it here: Just a quickie if you are having trouble getting you folding back from stealth mode do this.
Press and hold the Scroll Lock
key...
While I'm on surprises and big things coming up. We have something special happening in the next couple of weeks that will be the biggest thing to hit this team ever and no its not a super charged Norgs look alike. Lets just say its something that you wont want to miss and people will come from everywhere to see what the commotion is. This will take us hopefully to the next level of folding from which we wont look back, well only to wave bye bye to the [H] as we take off. Stay tuned.
Earlier today I had a phone call from a reporter for the APC magazine regarding our team of champion folders here in the house of folding madness. We talked about what makes our Folding@Home team so special and why folding seems more popular compared to other DC projects at Overclockers Australia and why we can match it with teams from countries that have a bigger base population to draw from than we have. The article should be in the June edition due out at the end of May.
Finally Stanford have gotten around to providing us with a complete list of current proteins and points values and more on a web page. Thanks to xylus for pointing this out, check it out here |
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Friday 26/04/02 |
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It looks like Stanford has forgotten to pay there ISP bill again. The main folding page and all the other pages including the stats aren't accessible at the moment. This has been going on from at least 1pm WST they are still down now 6pm.
It seems like the gremlins are back when we go to sleep and they are stealing our points when we aren't looking. For the past few days we have been whooping the [H] during the day by nearly 300 points then come bedtime through till we wake up we lose all that and more. Here is the day broken up into two 12 hour blocks from 10am to 10pm and 10pm to 10am (WST) and you can see we get a whooping when we are in bed. To change that all you have to do is leave our computers on over night and we should match or better the [H] team. Come on give it a try and lets see what a difference it makes.
Some of the guys from the Cable Modems team have form a folding community forum for all Folding@Home users to have their say and get help if needed. At the moment it doesn't replace the yahoo groups as a place to post bugs and get help from the Stanford people but if it takes off and is accepted by the folding community it will. This snip is from Vijay It's a new forum established by members of the community (not Stanford). If enough people like it, we'll switch from our yahoo groups page. This is a comment from the forum admin WW about the why he setup the folding community. We
are NOT officially the support group for the FAH2 project as run by
Stanford. We are hoping to become the official support site however.
So go pay them a visit and register, we have a thread in the Teams section here for you to post in and promote our team go to guys and gals and lets make it the biggest thread of the forum. |
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Saturday 27/04/02 |
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It looks like we have a couple more proteins to play with in the last couple of days. The 7 day deadline for the PolyGln looks like a typo seeing that its only worth 1 point and the wwext and the mut are 6 days for 2 points credit.
It looks like Statsman is having the same problem as before with Stanford not updating their pages again. |
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Sunday 28/04/02 |
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Well my little statement from Thursday concerning a little surprise we had in store the team for has caused quite a stir. If all goes well I should be able to say what it is by Friday next week and announce all the details. After all I said two weeks and its only been 3 days, so hang on and cross your legs and think of something else for a while. All will be revealed and I think you all will be impressed or I don't know sh*t from clay. |
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Monday 29/04/02 |
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While looking through the list of members I noticed a Dicksmith Moore Park name in the list. So I check a Dick Smith catalogue and found that there was indeed a Dick Smith store located in Moore Park. Welcome to the fold Dick and perhaps you can spread the word among the other stores, a lot of folding Dicks would certainly put the wind up the [H] dudes.
Stanford have had another look at the points value for the 700 series proteins and they have adjusted the points credited to them up, they are now worth 2.5 points instead of 1.5. After some analysis, we've bumped up the credit for the
700 series
Larry Perry (The Weatherman) has been busier than a one armed traffic cop in HongKong lately, he has updated his HideIt X program. Read more about it in the [H] forums. HideItX - Starts, Hides,
Shows, and Kills any program (almost) in
I installed a new stats tracking system last night to give more detailed stats about visitors to this site. It is giving some very interesting reading on where the referring site is and which pages they are looking at. I should have done it sooner. Check it out here.
WooHoo Statsman is back. The Folding Club and Top 200 PPW will be updated later today.
The Top 20 has been updated. So has Team Weekly and Team Daily and Page hits. Also the Members page.
Well done team we actually wooped the [H]orde yesterday to the tune of 136 points. This is good and a sign of better things to come. If you check out the chart below you will see we are on track to pass the [H] teams production in 31 days if nothing changes and we carry on the way we are. But that's not going to happen is it because nothing stays the same for too long around here. I do believe we will cut into that 31 days quite severely over the next week or so and start to out produce them on a weekly basis instead of just closing the gap.
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Tuesday 30/04/02 |
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I have just been speaking to a member that had difficulty send completed WU's back to Stanford mainly server 113. So I suggested the new debugging client and bingo they all went first time. Well done to the crew at Stanford, it looks like another one of those little bugs has been squashed.
Well folding madness has struck again and TheGrimSqueaker has shared his folding experiences with us in a slightly different way. With poetry no less, I guess its good therapy for those afflicted with the folding bug to express ones self like this. Well done Grim. I Hate You. I
Hate You All!
Stanford have released a special debugging client (console version) for people that are having trouble connecting to the Stanford servers, it has an enhanced FAHlog.txt so that Vijay and the gang can see what's happening. So if you are having trouble or issues with Stanford's servers give it a go, the setup is the same has the normal 2.19 console client. If you're having trouble
connecting, please try our debug version. It can be found at |